You can only do this to your holdings which are feudal. Young knights. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. Crusader Kings II. So im still not understanding this right. Gavinn. But nomadic holding doesn't provide any gold. It gives you a warning but it doesn't explain what are the problems with it, just to change it. But I can't give it away. So, to. Crusader Kings. . Porcius • Both of the Roman Empires • 8 yr. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. But I can't give it away. . Some county's capitals are city or bishop, so i get penalty for that. exe" -debug_mode) 2. When the World Stopped Making Sense: developer for this CK2 dynamic & historical Migrational Era mod 476-600 (+) mod created by Enlil - 0. Where is the religiousevents. I don't know why it's there. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. I now have a penelty for wrong demense type. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces. I started in Desmond, and quickly took control of Ormond. The second is to get a big fat capital, like 6 or 7 slots, and just build castles and hold them all yourself. How do i change these into tribes? (since i assume thats what they. Casus Belli that are "Holy War"-type let you take every holding. However, my problem is that apparently every holding in England is of the wrong type. So im still not understanding this right. I think that "wrong holding type" actually means "wrong government" You would get a Malus to income and levies from that holding, 75% Malus to both i think. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Question: in CK3 do you still get the "Wrong Holding Type" malus when a tribal ruler holds feudal titles? Am currently playing CK3 for the first time after like 2500 hours of CK2 In CK2 you would get crazy penalties like -75% income and negative demense limit if you were a tribal ruler holding feudal land. So holding the wrong holding type is almost never worth it. Convert Holdings will disable achievements! Nearly every mod for Crusader Kings 3 will disable. I have a warning message that the city and. i'm now getting a. In this guide we're only going to look at castle buildings as you won't normally find yourself in control of anything else in Crusader Kings 3. Feb 4, 2012. Not to mention that holding the wrong holding type means you are responsible for uphgrading. You're a feudal lord and he is a pesant, so he will always have a opinion hit towards you. anyway. If a character is of the wrong caste, they cannot be granted the holding. Exothermically Eclectic Dec 30, 2013 @ 8:07pm. I guess this is due to the capital of the county being a city instead of a castle. The decision is found in the intrigue interface. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. It is very misleading. Each of these three types have an associated. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. was finally able to revoke a few of his titles for heresy, but the new (previously unlanded) owner immediatley took a "wrong holding type" penalty. I don't know why. The "mauvais type de propriété" means you're personally holding a city/bishopric that the game thinks you should hand out to a vassal, because as a feudal lord you can only hold castles without penalties. As long as this rule is respected, it *should* be possible to change the type of a holding. Currently, the game doesnt really care that you are tribal when you conquer normal lands and simply gives you a standard "wrong holding" penalty or a "wrong government type. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. More info available in _governments. The wrong holding penalty therefore comes up when you are directly in charge of a city or church. 2. Give two cities, and -30 "Wrong Government Type" becomes a +10, so it is no problem. . Okay, so I was playing as the Most Serene Doge of Genoa. anyway. I don't want to change my capital county, but the capital holding in the county. And even better, almost all of these have added some sort of hidden easter egg. Oh, yes - you also get money from them. So im still not understanding this right. the only way to really avoid the penalty is to build a tribal holding in one of the empty slots if it is available. 1. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. 10. Showing 1 - 3 of 3 comments. . To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press. There's one tooltip that says "buildings disabled because count X does not have a tribal government" and the. So im still not understanding this right. Host #1 appears out of nowhere. All have the same mechanics. Thanx NinjaPepper for the help. Crusader Kings II > General Discussions > Topic Details. Your vassals shouId not revolt unIess you are dóing something. I'm a Norse Tribal Jarl, and captured a feudal county. There are several ways to change government type during the game. It would be a far better way of doing it. Im playing Jylland, i took Sjaelland easily and then took Mercia through the event which prepares an invasion. I don't know why it's there. Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without. You can change the primary holding type by granting the county title to a baron/mayor/bishop character in that county. #1. Each Holding gets a number of building slots with. Bugreport: CK3 - Gameplay - As Feudal Ruler cannot convert Tribal Holding to Castle Version - 1. I have over 110 hours in Crusader Kings 2, and still have some questions. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Note that it only applies to holdings owned by the Steward's liege, so they are best used in counties where the liege owns more than one holding. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. So, I'm the king of England. Aldaz Fox Jul 20, 2013 @ 6:03am. Wrong type of holding in demesne for feudal lord capturing tribes. After all, value of a tribal holding depends solely on amount of empty space and bonuses this space provides. ago • Edited 8 yr. There's also penalties to holding too many titles. However a castle holding will never change into a city holding as you asked in your question. By wrong type of holding I mean being a duke and holding a territory whose ruler should be a bishop. Im confused what the message "Wrong type of holding in demense" means. Sometimes your neighbors are poor tribal as you, and you don't have coastal county, so no boats. By the way, any time you personally hold a holding of the wrong type, the game will notify you in the same fashion it does when your ruler is not married or you. Horemvore Sep 19, 2020 @ 12:45am. These will give you stat increases, decisions and random events! - Don't worry if the upgrade has no immediate effect. Run your game, then move mouse cursor to the holding u want to change, u will see an ID of it in purple, for example: move to Southwark (at Middle Sex. It's just that they pay more if they like you ;D. Run your game, then move mouse cursor to the holding u want to change, u will see an ID of it in purple, for example: move to Southwark (at Middle Sex. Now, im not a CK2 novice, I know im not allowed cities or bishoprics but these are castles. This will only work for the subholdings, so for the main holding you're going to have to either give it away to someone else or create a tribal holding in one. If these two aren't enough for you,. For example, whenever you propose peace to someone you've not yet totally destroyed,. last time i tried to get rid of it, i gave it to my half brother and seem to have lost control of it, thank god for autosave. By the way, any time you personally hold a holding of the wrong type, the game will notify you in the same fashion it does when your ruler is not married or you can rightfully arrest someone. UncleCarp • 6 yr. . The only place that was practical to exand into at the start was a county controlled by a prince-bishop. Crusader Kings II > General Discussions > Topic Details. It say I am not a tribal ruler and therefore my holding doesn't accept my vassal. . And here CK2 handled cities much better - city vassals gave a lot of extra money at the expense of some relation penalty. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. P1: Fixing the holder’s wrong holding type in Crusader Kings 2 involves modifying the game’s saved file. 3 more GPM, but 150 less Levy. BluePear0 • 3 yr. Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. In my case, I right click on CK3 shortcut, choose Property, then add "-debug_mode" at the end of Target in Shortcut tab (for example: "E:Crusader Kings IIIinariesck3. Hi My question is, what are the consequences (cons and maybe there are some pros) of having a a wrong holding type or a big demense? From what I know: Cons of having a big demense: - Problems with taxes? Cons of having a wrong holding type: -. They also can't get 100% out of castles they hold. Feb 21, 2012. I hold Leicester as Earl. So im still not understanding this right. Seize the advantage if the realm is on the Silk Road. info. I've noticed that the castle garrison is not refilling - is that just because of the New Administration penalty, or is garrison regeneration also being affected by the Wrong Holding Type penalty?Have a revolt risk modifier until the culture shift to norse and then have the holding change to a tribe rather than a castle. Langkard Aug 31, 2018 @ 6:31pm. Tribals can raid and have concubines. The technology you’ve developed. Each form of government has preferred and allowed settlements, and will get "Wrong government type" (-75% levies and income) penalty while holding other types of settlements directly. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. Money in CK2 has a lot of uses. Reply. But I can't give it away. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Jump to latest Follow Reply. . I hold Leicester as Earl. Wrong type of holding. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see the levy is. So im still not understanding this right. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. P2: Here is a step-by-step guide on how to modify a Crusader Kings 2 save file:Ck2 Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne. What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. I conquered some tribal holdings in the North via holy war and, noticing the 'wrong type of holding' penalty, granted these to some of my middle sons and other relatives. . . The reason for this is the large penalty associated with owning a holding of the wrong type; you lose out on 75% of the income of the holding. It gives you a warning but it doesn't explain what are the problems with it, just to change it. Anyone has any ideas?im playing a game, i beat a muslim place on a holy war and take it over, i now have a wrong type of holding warning. Wrong type of holding? But they told me to build a church! I got a quest from my Monastic Order to build a new church. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see the levy is decreased due to their low martial skill (-45. I fabricated a claim and captured the county, usurping the prince-bishop. I conquered Rome but had wrong hold type since the capital of the county was a temple. So, I'm the king of England. Bring up the console command box by pressing the tilde key (~). However, my problem is that apparently every holding in England is of the wrong type. Now, im not a CK2 novice, I know im not allowed cities or bishoprics but these are castles. So im still not understanding this right. . No negative opinions from your vassals or anything like. "Holdings of the Wrong Type". Anyone has any ideas?Crusader Kings. . Crusader Kings 2 Holder is Wrong Holding Type. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. For example, if the primary holding of one of the counties in you demense is a castle (because you are a noble) you can grant your county title to a bishop in that county to make his cathedral the primary holding. Convert Holdings will not however allow you to freely convert to a Metropolis holding or any other mod added holding type. If there is a castle holding in the county, you need to be the holder of that title. Yes, riding is better in many situation, but you may need desperately a hundred or two ducats just to create Empire title or smite some artifacts. Anyway, got a new problem that I can't seem to work out, hope you guys can help. Conversely, having low opinion may trigger the character to be more hostile, joining factions or plots against the other. Hi guys, I've seen a few notes on "wrong type of holding", but nothing seems to solve my problem. Settlements [edit | edit source]. Yes it is a differnt (therefore wrong) type of holding. So I did just that, and experienced an immediate income drop!Crusader Kings 2 Holder is Wrong Holding Type. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. 9. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see the levy is. The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. 2. As a King can only hold two Duchies without a large opinion penalty from. Hello everyone ! I am coming to this forum today because I have a little question about modding CK2. it's a complex matter! - You probably get the most out of your own holdings ;p But well developed cities also pay you a lot for example!the game keeps alerting me i have the wrong types of holdings and i know i should give them away but no matter what i try i cant seem to get rid of…I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". Now, im not a CK2 novice, I know im not allowed cities or bishoprics but these are castles. It gives you a warning but it doesn't explain what are the problems with it, just to change it. Differences that means new code overriding (or trying) old code and sometimes conflicting with old code. Hello friends, i was being as Poland then i have conquered the Pomeranian tribes to the north, but after that i have got "wrong type of holding" warning, and the holding in three provinces is been labeled as "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, culture etc, which usually expire in five years. This mod brings the benefits of a family palace to feudal rulers, and also adds flavor random events and decisions. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. Anyone has any ideas?So, I'm the king of England. Anyone has any ideas?Select the barony. So, I'm the king of England. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. So you can only hold castles. Masaoto. Does everyone go with all cities or all baronies in their capitol? By building all baronies and holding them yourself, you can use your martial and steward to boost your income more than the cities would give you with a large tax rate, and you'll have huge levies (in a good 6 holding capital, more than 10k troops from a single province). If I recall CK2 allowed for you to change holding type (possibly through console commands, though I can't remember exactly). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Log in sign up User account menu 15 ExplanationHow to fix Wrong Holding Type and Wrong Government. View entire discussion ( 17 comments) More posts from the CrusaderKings community Continue browsing in rCrusaderKings rCrusaderKings Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy RPG video game series for PC, Mac Linux developed published by Paradox Interactive. I hold Leicester as Earl. You are a feudal lord, so you need to hold a castle. By wrong type of holding I mean being a duke and holding a territory whose ruler should be a bishop. So, I'm the king of England. The thing is that the line "Empty Holding Slots in Province: +X%" should be removed for tribes in possession of feudal ruler. These will give you stat increases, decisions and random events! - Don't worry if the upgrade has no immediate effect. I don't know why it's there. 1) You need to have an empty holding slot. To do this right click the barony in question and "create vassal". I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. How do i change these into tribes? (since i assume thats what they. Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source] Characters get a 75% penalty to income and levies in demesne settlements that do not match their government type. It gives you a warning but it doesn't explain what are the problems with it, just to change it. In Negev, for example, you don't get much benefit from Petra because Petra is in Baidha-Petra, which is a City Holding (and until Merchant Republics come out, you won't get any benefit from it at all, just like the Doge's Palace in Venice). And you can not rule over cities, as this would make you an republic ruler, something the player cant be. as you cannot build multiple tribal holdings in one county and get crippling penalties for wrong holding type. And I would not be surprised if this bonus modifier not being applied is actually a bug. The easiest way to do this is to click on a county that has the wrong types of holdings, right-click on the at holdings at the bottom of the county screen and select 'Create new vassal'. In order to convert your tribal holdings to proper castles you must first adopt feudalism (also decision in the intrigue interface) which requires legalism level 1. Best thing anyway is to not directly own more then one of the holdings inside one county, as they count to your domain limit, but give you less of an. May 6, 2013 @ 2:55pm. Give two cities, and -30 "Wrong Government Type" becomes a +10, so it is no problem. Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Type Of Holdingl crusader kings wrong holding type, crusader kings 2 wrong holding type penalty, crusader kings 3 wrong holding typeAs such, Crusader Kings IEstablish as many new cities as possible (also for the available city upgrades) in these duchies. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. By wrong type of holding I mean being a duke and holding a territory whose ruler should be a bishop. This process is intricate but necessary to ensure seamless gameplay and avoid errors. A city holding. But I can't give it away. Crusader Kings: Varys, basically. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. The thing is that the line "Empty Holding Slots in Province: +X%" should be removed for tribes in possession of feudal ruler. Wrong Government Type The wrong government type opinion modifier is applied whenever a Count-level or higher character has a liege who is of a different character type. g. I beat it, get 3 prestige and 0. But I can't give it away. Hello, I enjoy playing as small independent counts. last time i tried to get rid of it, i gave it to my half brother and seem to have lost control of it, thank god for autosave. you can have the city raided, which gives it a 5% chance of being razed. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Wrong holder type. Holdings come in 4 types: All holdings can be upgraded, and follow the focus on. Now, im not a CK2 novice, I know im not allowed cities or bishoprics but these are castles. P1: Fixing the holder’s wrong holding type in Crusader Kings 2 involves modifying the game’s saved file. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. Dec 30, 2020 — Category: Ck2 tribal vs feudal. It fulfilled the quest (yay for 300 Devotion!) but somehow I am the new bishop. A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. . 3)how can i make more. These settlements should generally be given to a vassal of the correct type or to a courtier (who will automatically take on the correct type). I was given a county by the HRE and I am a count. Of course, such a system would require good execution on Bethesda's part, as well as compensating with another skill, such as athletics, or unarmed. You have to make the castle holding the county seatto whatever. I don't know why it's there because I have other chiefdoms and those. P2: Here is a step-by-step guide on how to modify a Crusader Kings 2 save file: Ck2 Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne. . . It says that the barony has the wrong holder, but i cannot create a new one, someone already holds. Crusader Kings III > General Discussions > Topic Details. #4. If you have a different system of government your vassal will not like you. So a T3 Temple = 1. My government type was landless for a bit there . The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. Anyone has any ideas?Crusader Kings 3 features a pretty strong game management system, which also includes buildings and realm holdings management. By wrong type of holding I mean being a duke and holding a territory whose ruler should be a bishop. Hell Ormond might even decide that your war is the perfect time to fight a war of independence and the O'Brien's. My. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Could someone explain to me whatd up with holdings, specifically when it says wrong holding type. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Plus you can get their money once they die without heir so it's not like money just disappear. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. Compare CK2 release to CK2 today and you'll see all the lines differences. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. Great Holy war/Jihad - usurp entire kingdom. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Business, Economics, and Finance. Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without penalty, but can easily build new tribes in conquered territory; they can also build temples. Tribals can raid and have concubines regardless of. The capital of the county can be changed, but you can't make one of your holdings the capital unless you own the county title itself. Characters without any landed titles have no type, so if you give them a holding, they will automatically become which ever type is appropriate for that holding. What is…Think about all the types of characters we could play using character interaction and (hopefully expanded) Way of Life-type mechanics. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. 1. Second, Bremen has both a Castle and a Temple. It's just that they pay more if they like you ;D. 3 System - bug is non-system related Platform - Steam Mods - none Severity - Major, all Tribal Holdings useless Description - According to the wiki: 'If a Feudal or Clan ruler owns a Tribe it will gain no taxes or levies from but will have the option to. Early on you prioritize cash flow and keep tons of money for mercs. Changes: - Changed Pale Pass Holy Site for Court of Dawn's Beauty to Rhalta. Sputnik Jan 19, 2022 @ 9:23pm. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see the levy is. Xaioxaiofan Colonel. All manner of things affect this number in Crusader Kings 3: Your martial skill. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. I suggest that you give the county title to the Baron in that county. and to say a count was nmever in charge. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. Similar thing happens with church only counties like Sankt Pölten. Per page: 15 30 50. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. I'm afraid there's no changelog. Your baron is incorrectly assigned to the CASTLE in County Hamburg at the start of the game, not the city. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. It's pricey, it takes a few years and quite often players won't bother doing that. Each County has provinces that can be used to build a Holding. . The Basics. Edit: I found that I could just 'give landed title' away the Fylkja title and that 'fixed' it, but still. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. Business, Economics, and Finance. last time i tried to get rid of it, i gave it to my half brother and seem to have lost control of it, thank god for autosave. Nomadic rulers do not have a demesne limit. Oh my bad, sorry! I edited the post because a typo. You need the compatibility patch. Not sure what to do with it. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. -. Now…By wrong type of holding I mean being a duke and holding a territory whose ruler should be a bishop. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see the levy is. Castles are the county seat for most counties; as such,. 1. NapoleonI. ago. As the map receives further updates, the number of holdings may increase. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. Got in and discovered what's happened. Hey, Duke, right click and then choose the left-most option, dude!. It gives you a warning but it doesn't explain what are the problems with it, just to change it. . Tribes are a special case. . Take a correct type of holding in the same county if you've taken the county from a different government type.